While I can empathize with Jacob's frustration, which has often been expressed here, I find "dokFaye's" response to him very effectively expressed. Thanks, Faye-- Kees got a good one! :-) Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 80/9 Oxford, OH [log in to unmask] "http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm" My Home Page * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Ask me about the CARE list for* * Parkinson's caregivers ! * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *