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I'd like to apologize to Bob Fink for the cheap shot I took at him and his profession. In my post asking for help getting Ivan to DC for the Pan Forum, I responded to Bob's previous comment that it was a bad idea to have Ivan soliciting on the List by simply stating that I thought it was a good idea. I then in a post script added my purposeful dig at him, mostly because I was angry at at the effect his opposition would, and ultimately did, have on Ivan's success (only 4 List members helped out). It was a stupid reaction and I apologize for it. Another list member sent me a long well-written post pointing out all Dr. Fink had contributed to the list over the years and he isn't even a PWP. Looking them up and rereading a few his contributions, its obvious to me that they have certainly been better than mine. I was a little puzzled by his stated resentment of my entire post, though, and not just the little spear I lobbed his way at the end. I tried to keep it as light as possible. I thought Ivan again was held in fairly high regard here. He has certainly promoted PD awareness in his home state. I haven't had the chance to look at my copy of the video of it yet, but Ivan sure seemed to receive plenty kudos here for his TV appearance and his ability to perform publicly as a spokesman for our cause. The man is suffering physically (we have the first-hand observations of other List members on that) yet he seems to be concerned for us all. And all I was trying to do was to do him a favor by soliciting $ for transportation help for him to a PD function where he could use this publicly acknowledged talent in scheduled meetings with some Senators. Yes, and maybe Ms. Bubba. He is also going to help Helen deliver petitions to Representatives. I should not have even mentioned his personal financial situation because I was not looking for personal help for him. Bob says, "If this List becomes financial or commercial I shall leave in an instant." I don't see any danger of that. It was no big deal. Sorry for the fuss! BBA PS Ivan got 2 more sizeable donations from a PWP and the spouse of another in ME, which will enable him to go. (And God help us all if one of those Senators in a no-show!!!) .