I just signed on to the computer again (after a couple of days absence) & found this wonderful discussion brewing. I'm very interested in Cathy's suggestion that disciplinary discourse may be seen as lobbying for particular (peculiar?) reading strategies--& certainly in the case of lit crit, & despite frequent claims to the contrary, the reading strategies we tend to teach in lit classes are peculiar to the discipline. I think I've been arguing Cathy's position for at least the last 10 years, but I'm not sure I've seen it phrased so succinctly. My lingering problem with the discussion, though, centres on the assumed irrelevance of the literary essay. I'm not convinced that it need be irrelevant--that student writing about literature needs to be hopelessly imitative, phoney, unmotivated, etc. (I guess the fact that I'm writing a text about the subject suggests my commitment to _both_ writing & literature, eh?) Russ wrote: > Remember that we're still talking in the context of > Will's question about the rhetoric of the essay on literature. That > genre (I argue) doesn't have real readers. Even if we allow that--once we agree on terms such "essay on literature" or "real"-- the student lit paper is seen by many as little more than an exercise, does this make it so very different from other forms of writing assigned in a university setting? And what of the success stories? My own students enthusiastically embrace literary discussion, & many write personally committed, informed, even witty essays. Some of those who have gone on in literary studies have found a wider audience through publication--& like some of your own students, I suspect, many of my students make their essays available to others by placing them in a class binder (usually held on reserve in the library) or by "publishing" them electronically. Isn't this a form of real writing for real readers? Or am I hearing another argument, one that posits the essay on literature as a form (or genre) which violates rules of good writing? Let me put the question another way: don't those of us who study & teach writing have some responsibility to bring that expertise to bear on a "genre" that is too easily written off as artificial? Thanks, Will PS. I'll try to track down the NCTE book too. < < W.F. Garrett-Petts > > English & Modern Languages ._______ UCC, 900 McGill Rd | \ / | Voice: (250) 828-5248 Box 3010, Kamloops B.C. --|.O.|.O.|______. FAX: (250) 371-5697 B.C. V2C 5N3 Canada.__).-| = | = |/ \ | E-mail: [log in to unmask] >__) (.'---`.)Q.|.Q.|--. http://www.cariboo.bc.ca \\___// = | = |-.(__ `---'( .---. ) (__< \\.-.// `---' < < Writing is a Performance Art > >