Ken, I think if I have a single point it would have to be that the doctors who would like folks to believe they always act n the best interests off the patient, are not the angels of light that people assume in this grand scheme of things. I found about 50% deserving of such adulation and maybe 35% too selfish with their time and care. However, what disturbs me is that a definite 5-10 percentage of em are jerks. This business of doctor patient relationship has become too one way for my taste. Too few of em are interested in their patient's outcome. I have had one tell me that he wants to do what he thinks is his job and go home. Good administrators exist and while the are interested in the bottom line too, they know that to deliver the goods is the way to take care of that also. regards, WHH