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Tue, 21 Jul 98 17:06:13 -0400 Barbara Patterson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: <<<< I'm open to suggestions.... Barb >>>> .......AND....... Tue, 21 Jul 1998, Camilla H.Flintermann wrote: <<<< Friends-- by having the campus techies DELETE massages from the Sampers, P. Kidd, and Gev.Irani >>>> <<<< Murray Charters was right when he said the problem was with ATTACHMENTS on their" MS Outlook 8.5" mail programs--apprently the system sends ths *signature etc* as an attachment, and the sender isn't even aware of this! >>>> Hello Barbara P., Camilla and all, I've been looking at these "trouble-making" messages, received in "bin" format, and I found a remarkable coincidence in the SUBJECT-lines: Sampers: sun 19 jul, 09:23:31 - 04.00 SUBJ: NOT READ: RE: INTERNET MESSAGE P. Kidd: sun 19 jul, 12:51:06 - 03.00 SUBJ: READ: RE: INTERNET MESSAGE G.Irani: mon 20 jul, 17:39:13 + 05.30 SUBJ: NOT READ: RE: INTERNET MESSAGE (appeared on the digest of 22 jul!!) Sampers: wed 01 jul, 19:50:52 - 04.00 SUBJ: READ: SPEAKER B. Bell: sat 25 jul, 18:53:40 - 07.00 SUBJ: READ: RE: INTERNET MESSAGE I remember an earlier message by the Sampers was also called: read: speaker. Also remarkable is that there are NO original messages AND an attachment, but only original messages sent AS attachment ONLY, converted into "bin"-format. And the adding of "READ" and "NOT READ" seems significant. I can NOT imagine they ALL gave the same subjectline. So IMO it is a setting in MS Outlook 8.5 Although: this phenomena seems to appear and disappear again WITHOUT change of settings! (BTW: Are there Outlook 8.5-users that have NOT had these problems??) Therefor it would IMO be useful, if the people mentioned would check in their Mailbox-Out: - Is there a message sent to the Listserver at the day and time mentioned? - What was the subjectline? - Are any settings different, that could have caused this? Furthermore I suggest these people (and the NON-problem Outlook 8.5-users) to compare their settings OFF-LIST!!, in a joined effort to resolve this problem. Last suggestion: call the MS-HELPDESK how this can happen and what you have to do about it to make it work correctly with the listserver!!! (It might also be a new protocol some providers do not work with yet??) Hope this helps, Hans.