It doesn't seem likely that avoiding HMO's is an option for most Americans. A newspaper article on the Managed Care Bill passed by the House on Friday, reported that managed health-care plans cover more than 75% of privately insured Americans. Our local newspaper also reported that a group of local physicians who have become so fed up with interference by the area HMOs, are trying to start their own, doctor-run health plan. Is this happening in other parts of the country as well? I believe it was brought on mainly by the threat of one of the local insurers (our HMO) to withhold a percentage of their payments to the doctors because they were ordering too many expensive tests and prescribing too many expensive medications (like Requip, I suppose.) The HMO claimed it would have to either (a)withhold these payments from the doctors or (b)increase their premiums. I believe it turned out that the doctors will be fully paid; we haven't heard about our premiums yet. Oh yes, the HMO did make a good profit last year. In spite of these comments, and my previous HMO complaints, I do realize my family is still among the fortunate ones - we do have comprehensive medical insurance and a prescription plan. The millions of Americans lacking any medical insurance or those with very limited coverage are the ones in the greatest need of meaningful health care reform. I was wondering about the views of the Canadian list members. Some Americans believe if we ever do get National Health Insurance it should be modeled after the Canadian system. Others are very opposed to it. Do you have similar problems with your National Health System, as we do with the HMOs, or do you think it generally provides well for your health care needs? I think many of us in the U.S. would be interested to hear about your experiences. Thanks, Linda Herman [log in to unmask]