Kathryn's and Anthony's posts have pushed to me to think again about how much I learned back when I first heard Lee Odell talking about "non-academic" writing at the Cs in New York -- it was complete news to me that the sort of thing that insurance executives and bankers did was as principled, skilled, reflective and complex as what I'd been educated to think of as "Writing" (that is, academic, scholarly and literary writing). It took me years to learn that in fact "non-academic" is a wierd phrase because it suggests that what's the marked or singled out case is the writing that really has audience and intrinsic purpose and function, unlike the student essay or dissertation . . . It's "academic" writing that's the bizarre case. It's a surprise to me, but not a big one, that people are still learning that "Writing" is what you do and read in English class, and all the other stuff is, well "recording" or just "work." That's really the issue I wanted to address when I wondered under what circumstances "professional writing" would include note taking, reporting, recording, etc. -- because, as Anthony points out, it's not only not seen as professional, it's not seen as writing either. -- Russ __|~_ Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Aquinas Chair St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] \ / ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~