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Tue, 4 Aug 1998 22:45:03 -0400 Hilary Blue <[log in to unmask]> wrote: <<<< That is exactly it. You have a silver ribbon, I have a purple one, and a PD button, somebody else has a tulip, someone else a torch .... we need to decide on a uniform emblem, and I think the hourglass is it. >>>> Hello Hilary and all other uniform symbol/emblem seekers, This diversity in symbols seems to be limited to the USA. The tulip (although ALSO in a diversity of used colours) is AFAIN (as far as I know) an accepted symbol for PWP/PD/Associations in Canada, Europe and Australia. Why don't you join the "united" rest of the world by making the tulip also THE PD-symbol in the USA too??!! (If you need a more personal / group-identity symbol, perhaps a tulip on a silver/purple/etc ribbon could be considered for now). The tulip worldwide choosen as THE symbol of PD/PWP, should eventually cause the tulip to be associated ALWAYS with PD/PWP, timeless and independent from (political) actions e.g. for funding. The person wearing the tulip-symbol would show his/her connection (in whatever way) to the UNIFIED parkinson community AS A WHOLE, NO MORE. (Symbol used for public awareness/publicity/recognition). Perhaps the hourglass could be used as a symbol for one or more (political) ACTIONS, fundraising, pressuregroups, etc., where opposite meanings, money, differences of opinion, choosing sides, etc. play a role. (Symbol used for a more limited group of PWP, active and fighting for a defined goal, being associated also WITH that goal). Hans.