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hi to jeff and hilary and all y'all clinical depression [cd] has become one of my favourite subjects i have copies of several posts of mine in re cd on the web at: a new voice: http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/janet/index.htm since i have written to several people over the past year who were stuggling with cd to the point of feeling suicidal i have put these posts and a couple of others together into a sort of 'care' package which includes: an introductory note my 'perceptions series' of five messages a definition of cd the beck depression inventory three news posts on cd three messages re suicide three messages describing the journey out of cd if anyone wants me to email all or any of it to them, just ask if anyone wants me to post the whole shebang to the list, i will jeff, you are absolutely right in re the battle/war metaphor whether the slide into cd is related to chemistry or emotional trauma it is a slow and insidious process the road out doesn't have to take as long but it's not easy or straightforward or clear-cut more like a roller coaster heading up out of the murk eventually [and that is not an 'if' it's a 'when'] thanks for answering my questions! much love from your cyber-sister-in-slime janet a new voice: http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/janet/index.htm 51/10 - almonte/ontario/canada - [log in to unmask] janet paterson