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In a message dated 98-08-31 10:57:49 EDT, you write: <<PD is a battle, a war, the best you can hope to do is fight it to a draw. But if you value the quality of your life, it's worth it not to give up and lose outright. Craig, where >> I had always maintained that the situation resembled the Alamo. While there wads a time in my first few years that I would have accepted a draw, these days I want a win. If there was anything to be gained by accepting the situation or giving up, I might consider these options. However, for now, I find shooting Mexicans more interesting (sorry if anyone is offended by my analogy--you all know what I mean).. Regards, WHH 55/19