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Bill..... I HATE to tell you this (like hell I hate to) but this California native (born in, raised in, and still living in Los Angeles) <in one piece 'cause I learned how to duck bullets at an early age) <grin> happens to know that your radio was prolly installed by someone from another part of the country who'd come out to California two weeks prior to that radio installation planning on becoming a movie star! They figured they'd be TEMPORARILY installing car radios till they were discovered by a Hollywood big-shot and made it to instantaneous stardom! (YEAH SURE!! That's ALWAYS how it happens!) <cynical smile> (Band plays a rousing rendition of "Hooray for Hollywood") <giggle> Barb Mallut [log in to unmask] ---------- From: Parkinson's Information Exchange on behalf of William Heitman Sent: Friday, September 25, 1998 12:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN Subject: Non PD, Ken's Negativity, appropriate? It has to be a California thing. I remember being in LA for an unrelated matter and paying someone( at the place where I bought it) to put a new radio in my now old Dodge Van. A couple of weeks later, I hit a bump and the whole shebang fell out. Those yokels had glued the thing in by the faceplate. . An inexpensive brace and a few metal screws, did the job permanently. The really weird thing is that it was easier to put in properly. It was as though they had a shoddy reputation to protect. California has some wonderful folks, but there definitely are some flakes and crumbs. WHH