I've thought about this question a good deal, too, Cathy, starting back when as secretary of the association of chairs of English departments I did a survey of writing instruction -- this would have been maybe in the early '70s. I'd be _very_ happy to hear other people's views on it. My own first take is that a "FY Comp" industry parallel to the US one never developed in Canadian universities (I'm not quite sure why, but I have a suspicion it has to do with the dominance in Canada of a English model of university, with its assumption that only the elite come, and with a tighter dominance of traditional English English literature in the middle of the century), and so writing has tended to find its way in the existing disciplines (mainly English) or as non-disciplinary "writing centres" rather than as a separate discipline. So we got to WID before there was a WID? (Henry's views on this would be very interesting to me.) I think inkshedding, on this view, is a peculiarly Canadian phenomenon. Writing learning as a byproduct of something else. Very pragmatic, too. This isn't to say we've done that particularly well, across the board: one big difference I see is that there's simply _less_ writing instruction in Canadian universities. But from my abolitionist perspective (if we could do it without costing so many of my friends their jobs, I'd say let's get rid of standalone writing classes altogether), we're not doing so badly. -- Russ __|~_ Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Aquinas Chair St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] \ / ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~