At 17:17 4-10-98 -0400, you wrote: >I saw this on 'CNN - Your Health' today and thought it was so >interesting, I did a search so I could send it on to you... Listmembers, I did read the CNN rapport about this. Amantadine is in fact an anti-virus med., but that is, in the view of neuroresearchers, not the reason why it has effect in treating Parkinson. It is also a glutamate antagonist. Glutamate and dopamine are both neurotransmitters and neuromodulators, that are mutually inhibiting. So a shortage of dopamine does make glutamates to active. Relative low dopamine levels can cause depression, because dopamine has a role in the reward center in our brain. So an effectivity of amantdine against depression could be expected and does not prove that a virus has some role in causing PD Someone might relate this glutamate to other mails on the list today who mention feeling well after eating some sweets. The text that I did read said very explicitly that this glutamate is a rather complex molecule, can't pass the blood-brain barrier, and has to be produced in the CNS. If I read this kind of stuff, I know enough to feel I understand something of it, but I don't know enough neurophysiology to read it really critically. So at last everyone deciddes for himself what is most convincing. I am interested in the glutamates because much recent litterature says anti-glutamates are expected to be highly effective against end of dose dykinesia, and against craving of drug-- or alcohol addicts. I have on an intuitive level thought this were related phenomena.In Germany, university of Tuebingen, an anti glutamate has been developed and partly tried. Memantine is a derivative of the decades old anti-influenza drug amantadine. Memantine is used in Germany to treat Parkinson's disease, dementia in the elderly, and to speed the recovery of comatose patients. Memantine may also be useful for PWAs with HIV encephalopathy (which can mean anything including memory loss,confusion, difficulty speaking, walking, and/or concentrating). Memantine in PWAs While some PWAs have been using memantine, and the AIDS Clinical Trial Group is currently planning to study it at present there is no data from any clinical study in PWAs. We'll keep you posted on upcoming trials. Since there is no proven treatment for HIV-related neurologic problems, the PWA Health has decided to import memantine for any PWA with a doctor's prescription. The Theory Behind Memantine While the root cause of neurologic problems in PWAs is different from what causes Parkinson's or dementia in Elderly, people with these problems all lose neurons, the key brain or nerve cell, in much the same way.(PWAs with encephalopathy can lose up to 20-50% of their neurons.) How does this happen? Much of what we know comes from experience in Parkinson's disease. As the theory goes, too much of certain amino acids in the brain send signals to neurons that make them self-destruct. Memantine keeps to a minimum the destructive signals that neurons receive. These amino acids may be elevated in some PWA's too. What's worse, test tube and animal studies show that the HIV protein gp120 can also send neurons self-destruct signals. But until we know to what extent HIV related neurologic disorders are caused by these signals, we can't predict how helpful memantine will be in PWAs. If the theory is correct, another drug being studied in PWAs for neurologic problems, nimodipine, may increase the effect of memantine. With a prescription you can get nimodipine from a pharmacy, but it is very expensive, and since it isn't approved for this purpose, your insurance may not want to pay for it. Want more info? We have references available. Just ask us. Dosing We don't know the best dose for PWAs. In other groups, doses range from 5-60 mg a day, depending on the condition that it is being used for. 10-30 mg a day seems to be the standard maintenance dose in patients with Parkinson's disease. Since there isn't much information on the use of memantine in PWAs, it may make sense to start at a low dose, such as 5 mg a day (see below). Does someone of the German listmembers/readers knows more about this from own or a friends experience. If so, I am highly interested to know. Fur mich ist Deutch lesen eben so leicht wie Englisch. Wenn Sie mich personlich schreiben konnen Sie das auf Deutsch machen. Ich mochte dann eben auf Deutsch antworten. Ida 54/14, Holland -------------------------------------------------------------- Vriendelijke Groeten / Kind regards, Ida Kamphuis mailto: [log in to unmask]