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Wendy, do you have Kathy Tollifsons email address? I would like to hear more of the healing that she was referring to. Thank you, [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Tebay, Wendy M <[log in to unmask]> To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]> Date: Sunday, October 11, 1998 6:48 PM Subject: Re: Substantia NIgra Comes Back to Life! >Mike, > >Yep, to be perfectly honest, until just recently, I had not heard of any pd >healings, miraculous or otherwise. The one that Katie Tollifson recently >reposted is the only one I've ever heard of which seems to possibly qualify >as a complete healing. I had maybe about five responses to my recent >request for healing stories, that I could accumulate in a database of sorts, >so I probably won't pursue that all the way at the moment (maybe in 6 months >to a year, I'll try again). I figured if we could actually find some other >similar stories, then it would be worth following up on them, getting more >information, and trying to do some real analysis on whether they were truly >healings, how they occurred, it they still in effect, etc. Of the five or >so responses I got, one included Kathie's story and one was chalked up to an >original misdiagnosis (whether that's true or not, I guess no one knows till >the person's deceased - and I suppose, were they truly healed/cured, could >we even tell anyway post-mortem, if the healing also wiped out any and all >previous signs of pd?). I think the others qualified more as individuals >who've had pd for a long time and have experiencend relatively slow >progression (not that that's not worth following up on, but it's not a >cure). > >Considering the generally negatiive reaction Kathie received when she posted >that healing story, people with other similar stories might not want to post >theirs. That's part of the reason I decided to suggest my survey, and have >people resond to me directly first. I wouldn't be surprised that some >other stories are in existence somewhere, but these people were either >written off as not having pd to start and/or they, having already being >healed of pd (or whatever they had), would have no reason to seek out this >forum because of that. i forget what the percentage of those who are >misdiagnosed with pd is, but there could be a number of us who think we have >it, and who don't. Personally, I'd be just as happy whatever I was cured >of at this point, pd or something else, cuz in my mind they all suck >equally. > >It's kinda funny, and altho' I know some of you don't want to hear Biblical >references (I'd use another if I knew of one specifically), however, there's >one story of Jesus' healing a blind man which I kinda find relevant to all >this. After the man was healed of his blindness, those who were trying to >trap Jesus (and who also didn't believe that the healing had really >happened), questioned the man up and down, questioned all of the witnesses, >etc. They really grilled him, at first questioning the healing, and then >whether he had really ever been blind in the first place. Then, they >supposedly even went back to his hometown and also grilled his parents as to >whether he had truly been blind to start. Upon getting a positive response, >they then questioned if this guy was who he said he was, and so on and so >on. They both wanted to discredit and entrap Jesus, but probably just as >much, they didn't even believe it had happened. They said something about >there having been no one, in the history of mankind, ever having been healed >of blindness, who had been blind since birth. > >I brought up this story cuz just like blindness, up until this point, no one >(supposedly) has ever been healed of PD. Even if someone were today healed >of pd, then I would bet, rather than exploring the possibility, most people >would begin (based on the responses to Kathie's posting), like these guys >did, by questioning whether the person really had it in the first place >(altho' that is a valid question with pd as it's not easily diagnosed). I >bet they would also try to discredit the form of their healing (whether by >herbal medicine, spiritual healing, or whatever), and so on. It cracks me >up that in this Biblical story, they even questioned the man's identity, >saying that it must be someone else who looks like the other guy, who must >still be blind wandering around somewhere. Ha! Where can I find a sucker >to pose for me as if they had been cured of my pd? Not! No one in the >history of mankind (except for Kathie's story so far as we know) has ever >been healed of pd, but it's about time someone break thru the barrier and >show others how. I truly think if one of us could accomplish this, others >would follow, once they believed it to be possible. > >I just went to see the new Robin Williams movie, What Dreams May Come >(something like that). WIthout giving the story away, I'll just say that it >seems like that even in heaven, there are still limits placed on individuals >regarding what can and can't be done, and likewise, there are still those >who dare to break all the rules by doing the impossible. > >I don't know who here is familiar with Carlos Casteneda, but while exploring >early American native cultures while an anthropology student, he began a >personal exploration of shamanism, under some guy named Don Juan. He >describes, in his books, "traveling" in his mind, to other worlds, that >according to him, are as real (or more so) than ours. These worlds had >their own dangers and pitfalls, but were also places full of beauty and >power. According to him, as well as some other yogis I've read of, we need >to be more aware, and more careful, about our thoughts, cuz not only do our >they affect our perception of reality, but can literally change it for >better or worse. Things like shape changing are not just ideas, but really >done. One yogi I was reading cautioned about some of the visualization >techniques, like picturing oneself connected to the center of the earth, >because these mental pictures one creates are literal, and one can release >forces for which one is not prepared, as well as those originally desired. >One can obviously take literalism to the extreme and the absurd, but I still >believe we all have much more real power over our current situation, >including pd, than we might think. > >Wendy Tebay