Don, don't you dare leave the list!!! We NEED you. You are my personal hero. When we heard that my daughter & 2 grandsons were coming to visit us from B.C., my husband & oldest daughter decided to do some painting in our kitchen. At one time, I would have done it but now the most I could manage was to paint the back door. But at least I did that much. I didn't have to do it...my husband would have...but I wanted to contribute and thought about you taking on all kinds of jobs that guys half your age wouldn't tackle so I painted it and it looks darn good. So, Don, you can have some time to feel sorry for yourself and then get the door painted...prefereably by someone else...you'll be too busy with the pup. I think that it's hard to be sad if you have a pup around because pups, kittens & kids make folks smile. Stay with us, Don. We need your example & experience...John Glenn's got nothing over you when it comes to courage! Barb mother of four grandmother of two owner of one 'pup' (85 lbs of Husky/Retriever) and owned by 2 cats (5 year-old sisters) =========================================================================== Barbara Patterson [log in to unmask] HSC 2J22 905-525-9140, ext. 22403 School of Nursing ===========================================================================