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Good Monday morning everyone, Ivan, I appreciated very much your thoughts about the tulip and the hourglass. Perhaps the best position to take is that we need more than one symbol or marker of Parkinson's. After all, Parkinson's is such an 'individual' condition. It has impact in many different ways on people -- the meds behave individually, and people handle it differently (witness the recent thread about anger and acceptance). All of these symbols we use to represent Parkinson's have meaning. I agree the hourglass is a powerful symbol, especially in the dramatic way that Jim Cordy used it. It must also look good on your T-shirts. That being said, the tulip, I believe. is a very good symbol to use because of it's marketing potential. Just as in the scouting and guiding movement, we can raise some money by giving value in return. It's not just a hand held out. And it lasts -- every spring the tulips return. And that has a powerful message. And on that score, a thought for Don...I've been wanting to join others in responding to your 'sorrowful' message. As others have said, hold on and keep faith and...hope. Think of the tulips pushing through the soil next spring! Best top all & TTFN, Peter ************************************************************************** Peter Kidd Learning Materials Consulting Services 62 Coronation Avenue, Halifax, Nova Scotia B3N 2M6 Canada Tel/FAX: (902) 443-4262 Email: [log in to unmask] URL: http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa163/peterkidd.html