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Helen - at a Parkinsons' Conference a few years ago a very good speaker who was a geriatric nurse from Texas said that we were our own worst enemies because we prided ourselves on how long we could go around and not be identified as a PWP. I think 'tis true. Nancy Shlaes deGrazia (61/4) P>S> My husband also tells me that my middle name outght to be "fine."