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, HMO Basher Extraordinare!! Keep bashing Ken. Those b tards down in Washington did NOT ever get a Patient's Bill of Rights passed & signed this year. We are still at the HMO's and other insurer's mercy when it come to denying access to specialists, tests, medications , etc. I kept busting you whenever you started to complain about one HMO infraction or another, saying, it's no longer a problem, Ken. I swear I heard a news report saying it had passed. I must have heard it was about to pass & it did not. I heard it didn't listening to Bubba lamenting what did not get done this year. I realize others here do not give a hoot about this, but as medicine advances, there will be a natural incentive to resist it's costs by those that have to pay for it. Better they should be required to pay & the costs shared by the sick & well alike - as in Canada. How would we like to see Udall passed, treatments perfected, and your spouse's employer's insurer, Mrs.. Smith's Screen Door Company and HMO, tell you to forgetabout it? Might be worth checking your congressperson's position on this Bill before Nov. 3. Maybe Bubba's so far gone that HE got it wrong. They ALL should be gone. Let's vote them all out and start over. B. Bruce Anderson (52, 4) Schooley's Mtn., NJ [log in to unmask]