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hi patti In a message dated 1998/10/29 11:41:31, you write, in part: << ...Would you laugh if this joke were about wife-beating, sex with children, gay-bashing, or a sexual assault on a PWP? Have a little sensitivity here, and consider what you are condoning. What we are talking about here is victimization. Patti >> i admit to having a pretty bizarre and wide-ranging sense of humour but i have to agree with you on this one i am glad you spoke up if i'm not sure whether a joke /story is sexist my test is to simply re-tell it but with all the genders reversed works wonders! janet