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hi all my digging in the pd list archives revealed a list discussion back in march i have summarised it thus: ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 22:45:48 -0700 From: Kathie Tollifson Subject: A Natural Form of L-Dopa ...My new acquaintance is named Dr. Grinstein, a Ph.D. currently living and working in England. Dr. Grinstein has developed an organic product, still in the development stages... The Dr. has shipped me a small quantity of a concentrated vegetable product, very rich in a natural form of L-Dopa, research to respond to me or to call him directly at 01144 1895 469745, fax # 01144 1895 469744. He is in the London area... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:31:23 +0000 From: David Langridge Subject: A natural form of l-dopa ...I spoke to Dr Grinstein over the phone and was not impressed. The deal is that if you endorse the product you get a free supply but if you want to buy this miracle product it's VERY expensive so the sales pitch is very similar to scams on double glazing, wall painting etc which are very common in the uk. ...He talks about curing pd which is a load of rubbish and certainly didn't impress me. Neither am I impressed by the phd title which gives him the status of 'Doctor'....Dr! Grinseins product which has not been tested in scientific trials ... We would all love to find a miracle cure but this shouldn't overide commonsense. I wish I could be proved wrong. David Langridge ------------------------------ so, 'teresa seiler', tell me this: is your 'researcher' the 'mr. grinstein' mentioned above? if so, i believe that the ethical thing to do in a case like this is to declare your financial interest in promoting his 'product' and not hide behind a snake-oil claim while preying on victims of our disease if not, who is it? what studies have been published? do you have a financial interest in promoting this 'product' i will be awaiting your reply with baited breath before acting on my instinctive to urge to report your apparently fraudulent use of the internet and this listserv to aol your cyber-sibling deputy chief inspector of the list police janet janet paterson - 51 now / 41 dx / 37 onset - almonte/ontario/canada http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/janet/ [log in to unmask]