with my memory as it is now. JUDITH RICHARDS CAN TELL YOU MORE. it just came to me at our support group we had a fellow that had one gave us a demonstration he did not have PD. HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST. was from a few miles where i live. i got video of it. it showed how bad he shook when it was off then when it was on. i also think KEN said some about the battery it used. i know remember where it at but will ask vivian. JUDITH showed to her group. so email her or she can put it on the list. i think it is the same you are talking about.? now i could be wrong me wrong never lolo so you can ask her i am sore but feel well go to my nero i think next week. flash @wcoil.com 74/30 LIMA,OH I.Y.Q. DON & VIVIAN LOVE OF MY LIVE-52 BEST MEDS FOR PD IS A LIVE TODAY WILL BE TOMORROW