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In a message dated 11/11/98 11:12:32 PM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << that the real debate is whether society is prepared to make an acception to "thy shalt not kill" just as it does for wars, self defence, capital punishment etc. >> Dennis, My pastor tells me that the origional "big 10 "used a Hebrew word that is properly translated "murder" and that is what thou shalt not do. Regards, WHH 55/19