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Hilary, I don't have any of the posts about Ivan, so I cannot be of any help. However, I spoke to him yesterday, and I could tell from his voice, he was better. We spoke at great length about his dilemma, and how on a whole, it had been resolved. We are going to try to go up sometime before Christmas, if we can do it. All I want to say is THANKS TO THE LIST FOR ALL THEIR SUPPORT FOR IVAN... Enough said. Gerry and Brig