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I figured that I might as well also throw a couple comments in here, altho' I may be repeating some others that have been made, may not tho'. Personally, I am pro-choice. I do not believe, however, that that equals pro-abortion, quite the opposite, for me anyway. I do not believe tho' it is the government's right to legislate a person's body, or their sexual behavior. I think adoption and other alternatives should be weighed into a woman's decision, but ultimately, it is her decision. After that, it's between her, God, and her baby. I wouldn't want to live with having done that, but in certain circumstances, I would want to have the option available. This is a slight digression here, but there was supposedly some guy running for office in Arkansas, who was promoting the concept of an abortion shield. In his logic (ha!), even if a woman were raped, abortion would still be unacceptable. His reasoning was that if a woman were really raped, then God would provide her an "abortion shield" that would magically appear and would prevent her from getting pregnant. The implication is, I guess, that if she did get pregnant, then she must've asked for it. Kinda reminds me of the Salem witchhunts, where God would save a woman from the flames if she were truly innocent. I agree with Bill that abortion should not be used as a form of birth control. In Europe, they don't have as many abortions as we do here, and I believe that to be in part to their more honest approach to sexuality. Here, on the one hand we condemn it and say "just say no" or whatever, and then throw it in everyone's face on tv, in advertising, etc. Our society is schizophrenic or hypocritical in how we approach sex. In Europe, there is much more education about how not to get pregnant in the first place, rather than just telling kids to avoid it (that is the best course, obviously, but not reality). In this country, the same people who are against abortion are also often against birth control. That is ridiculous. You can't have both. Most insurance companies, etc., won't cover birth control, etc., and alot of people either can't afford it, or are even ignorant about it, believing in alot of wive's tales and such. I know a woman who used to teach a course at a Catholic hospital on natural family planning (it's more involved than the rhythm method, but similar). I talked to her a bit about it. Obviously the church is officially against abortion, and also generally against most forms of birth control, believing them to be a sort of form of abortion cuz they interrupted the normal course of things. She said her beef with the church was that altho' they supposedly endorsed this method as the only one they would accept for catholics, because of the above reasons that they rejected all others, they nevertheless failed to really make their congregations aware of it and never really brought it up, probably cuz of all the taboos that go with talking about sex. If people don't know, then they can't use something. That's where the Europeans are a bit more with it, in my opinion. At least from the English friends that I've had, none of them were shy about discussing that subject at all! In the case of donating fetal tissue for research or whatever, there should definitely be rules instituted to keep abortion from becoming a profitable activity. Of course, this is already planned and applied already. I also have just as many, if not more, ethical issues with using pig fetal tissue as I do human. My thought is, what is more ethical about killing another species to use their tissue to replace our own, when we've already got human fetuses available, that would otherwise be "wasted" so to speak. By this I simply mean, isn't it bad enough that one life was already taken, now here we are taking another (even if it is just a pig), when we could at least, in part, maybe redeem in a way, the human abortion. Like I said already, there should be no link between a decision to have an abortion and the possible later use of the fetus, but if it's already been done, isn't it not worse to waste it completely, and to take another life in addition? I also believe that in the long run, human cells would be a better replacement for other human cells, especially in the brain. It just seems logical to me. Well, to close up, I'll just attach here two poems I recently wrote The first is in response to the abortion shield concept and the second just reflects my personal opinion on this whole issue in general: MIND SHIELD Lord, I ask that You will shield us From those who would Violate and rape us For there are many who pray (Oops, I mean prey) upon people's emotions In order to impregnate them With their own stupidity They speak with conviction Regarding conclusions they've drawn From premises which are both Illogical and absurd Raping people's minds Planting seeds of Doubt and of fear And also of ignorance Doing so with the intent Of fathering others whom They can then raise up to be Mindless copies of themselves Lord, we implore you Shield us from this onslaught Protect both our bodies and minds From this foreign invasion And whatsoever evil May thus be conceived Will ye also abort it Before it is given birth Give us your guidance So that we may choose Political leaders of both Integrity and intelligence And keep out of office All those who would Steal our freedoms And enslave our minds *copyright Wendy Tebay ----------------- PRO Pro-Choice = Pro-Life Pro-Mother Pro-Child Not Pro-Murder Pro-Choice = Pro-Life For both Mother and Child Pro-Responsibility Pro-Accountability Not Pro-Ignorance Pro-Choice = Pro-Life A woman's choice, not the government's Pro-Family Pro-Family Planning Not Pro-Abortion Pro-Choice = Pro-Life Birth control preferred over abortion Pro-Freedom Pro-Respect Not Pro-Judgement Pro-Choice = Pro-Life Leaving the judgement to Almighty God Pro-Love Pro-Compassion Not Pro-Hate Pro-Choice = Pro-Life A murderer forgiven at the Cross Pro-Liberal Pro-Conservative Not Pro-Stereotypes Pro-Choice = Pro-Life We are One in Christ Anti-Choice = Anti-Life "For I know nothing by myself; Yet am I not hereby justified: But he that judgeth me is the Lord. Therefore judge nothing before the time, Until the Lord come Who both will bring to light The hidden things of darkness, And will make manifest the counsels of the hearts, And then shall every man have praise of God." (1 Corinthians 4:4-5) *copyright Wendy Tebay