ms starr
thank you for your response, and your obvious earnest attempts to
introduce a little humour in our otherwise achy shaky days.
i particularly appreciate the extra large size 24 type, as i am like some
of us unable to read without our spectacles, and find them in this case
unnecessary. the attorney lawyer jokes are excellent.
now to your missive which i appreciate, and wish to dissect as we
regretfully put an end to our friendly chit chat .
1- i am compelled not to give this up, ever, and never, never forget.
you see ms. starr it is my own, lived through experiences that have
formed my opinions. i mean personal occurrences to myself and family, and
not third person testimony is involved here.
2-sorrry to bore you, i sometimes have that kind of effect on my readers,
when i am actually
and obviously stirring you up, and causing you to think that perhaps this
uncouth madman, who came
from another country to tthe land of true freedom is not so crazed.
3-i am sorrry to hear you were not raised among "them", and your only
knowledge came from
"rumors". generalizations by the way, are seldom if ever true.
4- jokes or humour does not have to be as you say "cruel", if an effort is
made....
5. its a shame that your "self esteem" keeps you from objecting to "woman
jokes".
au contraire, you will self esteem yourself much better if you fight,
fight incorrect observations, cruel
demeaning definitions, prejudiced utterances..................and mostly
fight ignorance by self instruction.
with best regards and wishes for our eventual redemption through ethical
humanistic means.
your fellow parkie , shaking emotionally, with love to all well meaning
people like you, and full of hate
to my enemies.
bernardo 64/12 or 13/14
wi
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From: Sharon Starr <[log in to unmask]>
To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: chuckle
Date: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 9:18 PM
Mr. Klainberg, when are you going to give this up? I've tried to stay out
of this debate and let others voice their opinions first as I am the one
who
originally sent the "chuckle". However, your sanctimonious objections are
beginning to show your ignorance and, in fact, are becoming quite boring.
I have no prejudices regarding jews. I was not raised around them and the
only "rumors" I can recall is that they are "good business people" (which I
have also always realized was like any other generalization: some are, some
aren't) Now however, you being obviously more informed, have taught me
that jews are also thought to be "rich thieves".
Please get a grip and stop believing that bright, good and well-meaning
people such as we on this list laugh at jokes because they are cruel to
anyone. Don't you realize that you are not going to be able to control
everyone's thoughts, words and deeds?
Thank goodness my self esteem keeps me from taking every "woman" joke
personally. Let's give it a rest. Sharon
-----Original Message-----
From: bernard klainberg <[log in to unmask]>
To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Monday, November 16, 1998 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: chuckle
>this ''innocent chuckle'' is just a sample of how ingrained certain
>prejudices remain, and continue
>
>to be spread by "innocent" story tellers.
>
>using a jew as a character who steals money and is rich
>
>due to borrowing aandd not repaying is not offensive ??? , i laugh at
>myself, and at other people
>
>politically corrrect which is the decent way.
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>From: Gerry & Brig Haines <[log in to unmask]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list PARKINSN <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: chuckle
>Date: Saturday, November 14, 1998 5:01 PM
>
>Thank you Bruce, I like you, need someone to explain all these supposedly
>offending situations to me. If you can't laugh at yourself, who can you
>laugh
>at. Our political correctness has risen to such a peak, you are afraid to
>say
>anything to anyone, I for one, think this whole business has gone too far.
>If
>you say something to deliberately hurt someone, that's different, and I
>have
>no use for that kind of dialogue, but innocent jokes are another thing.
>Maybe we need to post a warning on our humor, could be offensive to overly
>sensitive people. You and I bantered about men and their feelings, and it
>was
>fun, big deal!!! My husband could have left me over that comment, he
>didn't,
>actually he knows he'll never find anybody who treats him as well as I do.
>Of
>course, he would be the first one to disagree, but he wouldn't
>dare!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>Off my soap box now.
>Gerry
>
