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In a message dated 12/5/98 12:26:10 AM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << if they don't represent you and me [i.e. the parkies who (i hope) are their raison d'etre in their mission statement] the way we want them to and ask them to they don't deserve any kind of support from any kind of parkie >> Lets see, there is the APDA, the UPF and the NPF. Is there also an APD? Others? Regards, WHH 55/38/37