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From: Mary Jones <[log in to unmask]> I have a patient experiencing quite severe episodes of back pain. Can any one in the group give me some ideas to help this man ? Mary, My back pain has been as vexing and as debilitating as my particular brand of atypical PD (my condition is deteriorating much faster than "normal.") I have had it full-time since April and I have thought it was kind of self-induced by my poor PD posture, which I had allowed myself to slip into. All the doctors I have seen for it (neuros, neurosurgeons, physiatrsts and pain management center anesthesiologists) all say they agree - or can't think of any other reasons. I have: -had steroid shots in my spine, -had an MRI & a consult re surgery - none indicated, - had 7 weeks of physical therapy, - had 4 sessions of acupuncture, NONE OF THE ABOVE DID A BLESSED THING. - had a consult with another surgeon re an implantable electronic pain zapper - costs $12,000 with a 50% chance of success, in my case, because the pain doesn't go down my leg(s). - have taken ungodly amounts of narcotic (I know, I know) & non-narcotic painkillers - none of which ever does rid me of pain., A - THE LATEST - an external a electronic pain zapper - a "muscle stimulator." The jury is still out on this . It just may be helping.. Check with me next week if you are interested As you can see, it ain't easy. I hope you do better with your patient! I DO like Kathleen (SP? sorry) Holden suggestion re hydration. I have already put it to practice thanks!! B. Bruce Anderson (52, 4) Schooley's Mtn., NJ [log in to unmask]