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hi charlie At 16:43 1998/12/18 -0600, you wrote, in part: >Janet >...You are confusing questioning based on anecdotal information and >trying to get information with an attack on the list and Barb Pattern >which it is not. Questioning about whether people thin there is a >problem I believe is helpful. and in the spirit of your challenge to >help Barb, > >I'm going to let your subtle (or not so subtle) personal attack go by >for now (on my motivation and LIST "patriotism" except to say that >looking at problems and trying to cone up with solutions is not looking >a gift horse in the mouth. It is appreciating that gift that is >received and showing caring for it and its welfare. Not acknowledging >that the horse's teeth may be decayed is far more irresponsible. i did not intend a personal 'attack' on you charlie maybe i've misread your intentions in the same way that you have misread mine i simply don't understand the 'i don't like it, therefore it should be changed' complaint that rears its head every few months and i still don't our perceptions and our opinions obviously differ what you see as problems to be solved i see as perceptions that are negative maybe the 'gift horse' is a poor analogy your point about the horse's teeth being decayed doesn't suit fit this situation in my view since we do not own the gift/list we are given the use of the gift/list but the gift/list is still owned by barb patterson >Barb can speak for herself and if she sees what I >am doing as disloyal or out of bounds I am sure >I will hear from her. i agree but am i not allowed to express my opinion about list events in the same way that you are? >In the mean time don't polarize a well intentioned effort. If you >think I have a hidden agenda I'd love to hear it. Maybe I have a >financial interest in the outcome. I sure see why one person wrote >after expressing his views. Please don't use my name or someone >will crucify me . i don't see how having a difference of opinion is 'polarising' or 'crucifying' those members who see the list volume as a problem are entitled to their opinion and to expressing it those members who do not see the list volume as a problem are entitled to their opinion and to expressing it janet janet paterson - 51 now /41 dx /37 onset - almonte/ontario/canada [log in to unmask]