First, I hope we can be a little more tender with each other---we're all in this togetjher, one way or another! Second, I talked with Ivan today, and he has had a terrible experience with an oral surgeon who *butchered* him, this on top of the CG gap he's facing. He seldom has strength to read the list or post, but if anyone wants to cheer him up, a call would be welcome: (207)797-8488. Third, my personal thanks to Barb Patterson for her management of this sometimes fractious family-- the comments received by Charlie in his survey show over and over how important this list is to all of us.... we care deeply about it and about our fellow members.... it is a resource to be treasured, and with self-restraint and tolerance, we can keep it that way! Camilla Flintermann, CG for Peter 80/70/55 Oxford, Ohio http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/camilla/one.htm <[log in to unmask]> "Ask me about the CARE list for Caregivers of Parkinsonians ! "