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In a message dated 12/28/98 10:09:41 PM Central Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << peeing in one of those hospital male urinals is just not what I would think as being comfortable...any ideas?? >> I have found hospital urinals to be practically an invitation to spill. A far better thing is easily made from empty bottles of laundry detergent (ERA, etc.). Carefully cut out the inner pour spout and rinse them thoroughly before using and you have the best male urinal in the world. Screw on the cap and you don't have to worry about spilling. Regards, WHH 55/38/37