At 07:24 PM 12/27/98 -0800, you wrote: >my hubby also says that he can't *see* the pee going on the floor by the >toilet when he goes... > Coleen, the peeing process for men isn't like you are used to. The fluid dynamics of peeing through a collapsed hose spreads and separates the flow...it can be a case of getting a little on the floor or a lot...and most of us prefer to get a little...:))) For hubbys urgency problem, he needs to be referred to a urologist by your neuro. The neuro knows of urologists who are aware of treatments and procedures necessary for Parkinson's patients. Urgency and incontinence is painful...and unnecessarily so...if treated. Click on the underlined address below for the article in the Parkinsn Current Topics Index. It is my experience. http://www.ionet.net/~jcott/homepage/archive/013.html On the lack of vision...if hubby has a tummy...he could be blind in that area and not see the divergent stream. If hubby has cataracts, get them fixed. Old eyes with cataracts are needlessly blind with the new intraocular lense implants. It is possible that his eyesight could be made better than when he was a boy. I have had both eyes done this year and I am on SSDI with supplement and my total cost was the $100 medicare deductable. I was hopelessly nearsighted with thick lenses. I have 20/20 far vision now and only require help when reading. I drive without glasses for the first time in my life. I would recommend that procedure to anyone with cataracts. My worklife would have been so much more productive and less stressful if I had the good vision I have now. It's a shame so many optometrists would rather try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear by fitting glasses rather than referring you to someone who could fix the problem rather than treating a progressive condition. [log in to unmask] Search the parkinsn archive online at: http://james.parkinsons.org.uk Search the Parkinsn Archive Treasures on line at: http://www.ionet.net/~jcott/homepage/archive/patp.html John Cottingham