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Ivan M Suzman wrote: > Following JR Bruman, I question whether Tasmar really caused any deaths > at all. Careful! If my statement sounded like that it was unintentional! What I MEANT to say, and am still pursuing, is: 1. The evidence that Tasmar caused fulminant liver failure in 3 (the last I read) of its 100,000 or so users is circumstantial at best, and will remain so, because there won't be any volunteers for a controlled, definitive trial. 2. Not enough is known about fulminant liver failure to be sure that periodic testing of the liver distress enzyme ALT or AST will detect it in time. There are some (NON-Tasmar-related) instances where it seems to have occurred despite "normal" enzyme levels, up until the onset of unmistakable clinical symptoms. 3. The most knowledgeable authorities, in both cases, wisely choose to err on the side of caution, admitting that there isn't a "robust body of evidence" to prove that such monitoring will guarantee safety, but it certainly looks like a good thing to do. Cheers, Joe -- J. R. Bruman (818) 789-3694 3527 Cody Road Sherman Oaks, CA 91403-5013