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hi rachel At 15:05 1999/01/05 -0500, you wrote to me, in part: > Your warning that "there is no logic in a depressed mind filled with >distorted thinking" made me realize that I am living with a person who >speaks another language and therefore shared communication is useless. >I will take special care concerning my safety - and most important I >will be speaking to the Doctor. this is good news on all counts! your 'language' metaphor is right on the money if your husband is stuck in the mire of clinical depression his perception of his world is distorted like fun house mirrors with no fun when cd sufferers are able to verbalize their pain they mean what they say - no exaggeration and they feel what they describe the emotional pain is real even though the thinking is distorted any mention of potential self- or other-inflicted violence must be taken seriously and responded to immediately the physical results of such distorted thinking can be devastatingly real love janet janet paterson - 51 now /41 dx /37 onset - almonte/ontario/canada <http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/janet/index.htm> [log in to unmask]