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Dear Gisela--thank you for your post, below. I have tried to translate and keep your meaning, and hope I did so. You wrote: I have followed the correspondence about Ivan's homosexuality. Here in Germany they are still discriminated against also. But what I read is mean. When helping helpless persons, these Ethics- Aposles their anger should be exluded. Each human being has a right to personal dignity and independence. If Ivan is homosexual, then he is. Why do persons who also may not be faultless assume a right to judge othe= r persons, to torment them because of who they are or to absurdly. These persons belong in court. Who dictates to us what is normal ? Who knows ? ***** Why leaves the people not are the persons so like them?***** We are not dealing here however with murderers, criminals, Sexual offender= s or other. There are however also women who loves other women, heterosexuals= and much more. They had to fight certainly enough because their orientation wa= s known. Why must we fight among ourselves ? We are ill and we must stick together against the other people who pester us. Therefore let these people live their lives and live your own life ! I can=B4t express myself so well in English, but this is what I mean. Ivan, you must do fight! Gisela 41/4