After the last 40 some-odd hours of working on this computer, I am sure of at least a few things; 1 Thanks to pd, I can now blow up a computer and erase the hard drive for several days/nights at a time, since sleep isn't necessary. 2. The pd list had over 375 messages either posted publicly or privately to me in the last 5 days (I didn't count them, the server did) 3. I never want to read/delete another 400 messages in one sitting. 4. I not only have probably lost your message to me, I know I've lost your address, and all the pd web sites. 5. A 9.6GB hard drive isn't necessarily better than my old 286, it just takes longer to defrag. 6.FOR EVERYONE/ANYONE USING WINDOWS 98 --- THIS ONE ISN'T FOR CHUCKLES. Check your properties in the sysconfig. set up. If your computer isn't running at 98% free memory in the start up, do a controlled (custom) start-up to only include sysconfig, winsys in start-up menu. This is according to the 4th tech from Hewlett Packard I've spoken to in the last 18 hours. My system was booting up with 78% memory free, and still locking up and crashing. Sorry if I haven't replyed/lost your messages....Hopefully I've got it fixed and semi-kid proof this time. Bob [log in to unmask]