I call that position the beetle position it is just possible to get up from this position it is somewhat easier if there is something for your arms to pull on 1 decide if you are going to have more support and space on the left or right side 2 then get into position arms up in the air legs up in the air also 3 get some movement started use hands clasped together 4 build up the rocking until it is quite fierce 5if there is something FIRM GRAB IT! AND YOU WILL BE ON YOUR SIDE 6 but you can do without a grabber if necessary 7 when you are on your side tuck the lower arm out of the way and roll onto your tum 8 with practice you can roll right onto your tum inone movement 9 once on your tum get your knees under you and if there is a sturdy chair you can climb up it or climb up whatever is handy 10 sit on the chair and thank your lucky stars that you had some practice sessions be careful not to giggle you will be in real trouble then Anne Rutherford <[log in to unmask]>