Now that I have your attention, those that don't know if your message is getting out have three options. 1. The simplist method requiring no testing is looking at Parkinsn Online within a few minutes of your posting and see if your message has been distributed. It will be there if the listserv accepted your message and distributed it. The "direct" address to Parkinsn List Online is: http://www.ionet.net/~jcott/parkmail/maillist.html 2. You can have the listserv send you a copy of any message you post by addressing a message to: [log in to unmask] In the body of that message put three words: set parkinsn repro 3. If you don't really want a copy but an ack message you message has been distributed, address a message to: [log in to unmask] In the body of the message put three words: set parkinsn ack Those who like to be up to date on Parkinsn happenings can create a shortcut on their desktop that will automatically load their browser and bring up the Parkinsn Online page. This is done by going to the page and clicking on File/SaveAs. That will put the IE or Netscape icon with maillist as the title. Once that is done when you get bored..you can click on the icon and see what the latest topics are. [log in to unmask] Search the parkinsn archive online at: http://james.parkinsons.org.uk Catch the Parkinsn List messages on line at: http://www.ionet.net/~jcott/homepage/archive/patp.html *NEW*Click the page ads and use the new search tools*NEW* John Cottingham