hi all At 08:43 1999/02/01 -0500, hilary wrote: >Greg leeman, >There was absolutely no reason for that unprovoked outburst against Ivan >Suzman. Whatever your personal views, and whatever reason you may have for >having them - and I don't deny you the right to your opinions - what ever the >reasons, there was no need to bring them out in public at this point . Your >feelings on the subject do not relate at all to the case in point -which is >whether Ivan has a grievance against the NPF or not. Whatever you think about >his treatment of his caregivers - and I'd like to ask them what they think - >has no relation to Ivan's claim against NPF. If you and Ivan have been at >loggerheads - so be it. It belongs in Maine and not on this list where in >this instance it is totally irrelevant. >Hilary Blue i have never felt comfortable with 'judging' anyone else i have always been astonished if someone 'judges' me by judging i mean coming to a conclusion about someone's character based on their behaviour we are each one of us created for a unique purpose by something bigger than us it is not our place to judge that creation i.e. ourselves and others we are all enrolled in the same school of hard knocks it is our place to learn how not to judge ourselves and others to learn that we as individuals are loved unrelentingly and unconditionally whether we 'believe' it or not whether we 'deserve' it or not and that every other individual is as well i can condemn the behaviour if i must but i cannot condemn the individual we are drawn together by a common 'movement disorder' which manifests itself in obvious physical and not-so-obvious non-physical ways we do not feel uncomfortable expecting and getting empathy and loving forgiveness for troubles caused by our physical frailties why do we judge others and ourselves so harshly for troubles caused by our non-physical frailties? forgive us as we forgive others it could be so simple why is it so hard? janet janet paterson - 51 now /41 dx /37 onset - almonte/ontario/canada http://www.newcountry.nu/pd/members/janet/index.htm [log in to unmask]