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>No wonder Valhalla is crumbling, and the great ones are leaving. Come on, Hilary, give me a break. There are no "great ones", there is just us. How many other people, great, good, whatever, have dropped off or never had the nerve to post because of being overwhelmed or offended by some of the great ones' utterances? Some people are articulate and expressive, others less so. All should have room to speak (or not to speak). The list has its own life and will continue because it serves a need. It's just gone through a growing pain. Rick Hermann