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Subject:  Re: God, the Bible etc.... and tolerance

              From:   serenity <[log in to unmask]>

                   To:  Gaylon Johnson <[log in to unmask]>

With respect, just about anything is NOT tolerated on this list and
shouldn't be.   Also, as you can tell from the messages often posted, many,
many people have alot of difficulty putting up with subjects that have
nothing to do with sharing PD info, concerns, support, and other PWP
issues.  Those of us who do not believe in Jesus Christ or any other diety or
messhiah do not go around posting our beliefs and / or non-beliefs.  You
wrote:

" Briefly, I believe in God, His Word the
 Holy Bible, His Son and my Savior Jesus Christ. I wish that everyone
would know the
 peace, joy and hope that I have found in my personal relationship with
Him for nearly fifty years"

But what if I posted a message saying,

"Personally, I don't believe in the existence of God, Christ, literally what
the bible says, etc. and I find peace, love, joy, hope etc. very well without
the above for over fifty years."

 Would this not possibly sound offensive, challenging, proselytizing, or
just plain silly or boring, and certainly well off the point of this list to
many people?

Please, please keep this kind of stuff and debate private--like your
prayers.

I will not debate this any further, and am seriously considering leaving
this list if I keep getting 75 messages a day littered with IVAN, and other
non-PD or unhelpful, unwanted stuff.  Let's stay on point.

Ann
__________________________
>
> Dear Barb M., Rayna & All....
>
> I find it interesting that in the name of love, tolerance, support,
> encouragement, help,
> free speech etc. etc. just about anything posted to the list is acceptable.
> But, when God,
> personal faith/trust in Him, His love, His care, dependence upon Him, prayer
> to Him etc.,
> as the strength many of us look to and rely upon to deal with PD and the
> other problems
> of this life, and more importantly, our blessed hope for the life to come,
> that is unacceptable.
>
> Each of us is free to believe whatever we want. Briefly, I believe in God,
> His Word the
> Holy Bible, His Son and my Savior Jesus Christ. I wish that everyone would
> know the
> peace, joy and hope that I have found in my personal relationship with Him
> for nearly fifty
> years. However, what others choose to believe is their individual decision.
> I can't, and don't
> want to, force anyone to believe as I do.
>
> I agree this list isn't the place to debate God and I don't intend to start
> one. But I submit that
> it is just as much the right, of those of us who trust Him, to share the
> help we believe He gives
> us, as it is for others to share their thoughts and feelings. I'm unaware of
> any list policy
> concerning the matter.
>
> It has been evident, since I've belonged to the list, there is a wide
> variety of opinion
> among members. They have been "discussed", sometimes quite heatedly, but for
> the
> most part, tolerantly.
>
> Please tolerate me and I will tolerate you, for the benefit of us all. And
> if I cannot, or if
> you find you cannot.......we all have a DELETE key.
>
> Thanks for listening.
> Gaylon


With respect, just about anything is NOT tolerated on this list and
shouldn't be.   Also, as you can tell from the messages often posted, many,
many people have alot of difficulty putting up with subjects that have
nothing to do with sharing PD info, concerns, support, and other PWP
issues.  Those of us who do not believe in Jesus Christ or any other diety or
messhiah do not go around posting our beliefs and / or non-beliefs.  You
wrote:

" Briefly, I believe in God, His Word the
 Holy Bible, His Son and my Savior Jesus Christ. I wish that everyone
would know the
 peace, joy and hope that I have found in my personal relationship with
Him for nearly fifty years"

But what if I posted a message saying,

"Personally, I don't believe in the existence of God, Christ, literally what
the bible says, etc. and I find peace, love, joy, hope etc. very well without
the above for over fifty years."

 Would this not possibly sound offensive, challenging, proselytizing, or
just plain silly or boring, and certainly well off the point of this list to
many people?

Please, please keep this kind of stuff and debate private--like your
prayers.

I will not debate this any further, and am seriously considering leaving
this list if I keep getting 75 messages a day littered with IVAN, and other
non-PD or unhelpful, unwanted stuff.  Let's stay on point.

Ann
__________________________
>
> Dear Barb M., Rayna & All....
>
> I find it interesting that in the name of love, tolerance, support,
> encouragement, help,
> free speech etc. etc. just about anything posted to the list is acceptable.
> But, when God,
> personal faith/trust in Him, His love, His care, dependence upon Him, prayer
> to Him etc.,
> as the strength many of us look to and rely upon to deal with PD and the
> other problems
> of this life, and more importantly, our blessed hope for the life to come,
> that is unacceptable.
>
> Each of us is free to believe whatever we want. Briefly, I believe in God,
> His Word the
> Holy Bible, His Son and my Savior Jesus Christ. I wish that everyone would
> know the
> peace, joy and hope that I have found in my personal relationship with Him
> for nearly fifty
> years. However, what others choose to believe is their individual decision.
> I can't, and don't
> want to, force anyone to believe as I do.
>
> I agree this list isn't the place to debate God and I don't intend to start
> one. But I submit that
> it is just as much the right, of those of us who trust Him, to share the
> help we believe He gives
> us, as it is for others to share their thoughts and feelings. I'm unaware of
> any list policy
> concerning the matter.
>
> It has been evident, since I've belonged to the list, there is a wide
> variety of opinion
> among members. They have been "discussed", sometimes quite heatedly, but for
> the
> most part, tolerantly.
>
> Please tolerate me and I will tolerate you, for the benefit of us all. And
> if I cannot, or if
> you find you cannot.......we all have a DELETE key.
>
> Thanks for listening.
> Gaylon