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Greg leeman, There was absolutely no reason for that unprovoked outburst against Ivan Suzman. Whatever your personal views, and whatever reason you may have for having them - and I don't deny you the right to your opinions - what ever the reasons, there was no need to bring them out in public at this point . Your feelings on the subject do not relate at all to the case in point -which is whether Ivan has a grievance against the NPF or not. Whatever you think about his treatment of his caregivers - and I'd like to ask them what they think - has no relation to Ivan's claim against NPF. If you and Ivan have been at loggerheads - so be it. It belongs in Maine and not on this list where in this instance it is totally irrelevant. Hilary Blue