On Sun 07 Feb, Phil Gesotti wrote: > Brian I tried attaching to the web site, but didn't have any luck. > Could you e-mail a copy of the paper directly to a fellow engineer? Try the attachment which is for your copy only Phil - Putting this much data out to the list blows a lot of the older rigs right out of the water! > Now regarding avoiding Sinemet, I guess I agree that metering the > correct dosage is most difficult as the disease progesses. However, > there is something that has been bothering me and that is, why should > all the symptoms be attributed to loss of dopamine producing cells? I usually steer away from speculation about the constituents of the 'black box': I am looking at it from the point of view of someone who is already at the sharp end, and needs to find practical ways to live with the situation as it is. Here are some thoughts for you to work on while you are still an active worker- I really think that our thought processes do slow up to some degree as PD progresses, and since the last neuro I spoke to cheerfully told me that I must be just about out of natural Dopamine producers, I get the feeling that I am still driving but the petrol (Gas) tank is reading empty!! When you read about my model of the system, you will find that I place considerable importance to the concept of a flowing system. It has to flow, otherwise we would be unable to introduce man-made Sinemet into the brain. At one end of the flowing system are the Dopamine-producing cells, and at the other are the waste products from the natural breakdown of the dopamine. If we introduce anti-cholinergic drugs, or MAO-B blockers, we are blocking-off some of that break -down route, so that the surviving dopamine will last a bit longer. We then cash that in by reducing our input of levodopa, and we MAY (I'm not sure of this) end up with more dyskinesia margin. Can anyone tell me about the dangers in messing with the proportions of acetylcholine, or MAO B, or COMT ? Why were the levels of these chemicals at their original settings anyway? Is it not possible that by blocking this and that, we may release a more fundamental problem in the long term? Another point: Cabergoline's claim to fame is that it lasts so long that it need only be taken once every 24 hours. Good news? I am not so sure - It also means that if you get the amount wrong, you have to suffer the consequences for 24 hours (ouch). Now here is a real challenge for you experts: What is dyskinesia? Yes, I know how it manifests itself, I have plenty of experience of that, but what is actually going on inside the brain? The conventional story is that it is some sort of a reaction to too many years of Sinemet useage. If so, why am I still using levodopa with success after 19 years of continuous use? How is levodopa involved? Why does it take Years to develop? I think Dyskinesias are another example of that endearing trick of neurologists, where if they come across something which they don't understand, they simply give it a latin or Greek name and pass quickly on to the next question. So let's stand well back and look at the system again... I have always felt a little sensitive about the fact that my Model defines dyskinesia as being the result of the Dopamine level exceeding a critical value, and perhaps getting to synapses which were not the original target, thus sending the electrical message to the wrong muscles. My point is that I can produce plausible explanations for most of the phenomena which we associate with dyskinesias (including the dreaded Di-phasic Dyskinesia) I am beginning to wonder..... You know the old saying: If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like as duck, and lays eggs, then maybe, just maybe, it IS a duck. -- Brian Collins <[log in to unmask]> Age 59: Diag. 39: First Symptoms 33