Janet: I wish I had your expertise in computer usage- I just wrote a letter explaining my problem with what "howard" is doing and how such a thing affects the list and can make "idiots" of people when taken seriously. Unfortunately, I lost the message,got nocked off line by a call- but in short, I want to thank you for the recap- doesn't reflect the direct message I got and almost took seriously before being alerted. When trust and truthfulness get abused this list is greatly affected- and such breaches need addressing - so I don't mind the lengthy conversation - it is needed to protect the integrity of this whole list situation. Are there any suggestions about how to prevent falling victim to falsity and hoaxes by insensitive/ill,in need of help, people? Thanks again....... now on guard.... Marie