At 08:02 17-2-99 EST, Joan wrote: >Have just become a member and am overwhelmed with mail. > none have seen the severe shaking that occurs at the end of the day when the > pills are what I call "worn off". The tremor is severe for about an hour, >preceeded by "correa". Then the tremor stops, but he is rigid--off time. >Anyone have an experience with this? > >Thanks for your input. >Joan Joan I answer this with some hesitation, because I fear the only effect is merely increasing your confusion and I agree with Judith Patterson's questions. Answering them might make things more clear, though it would be better yet to be able to observe the symptoms you are talking about. Without such observation, a high level of guessing can't be avoided in answering. So please read this with that in mind. One effect of levo-dopa is not getting the attention it deserves. Reading about the "on-off" phenomenon one has the impression that a PWP, who is on levo-dopa quite some time, can discrminate two stages(on and off), when he has exactly the right dose and three stages (one on with dyskinesia, one on without dyskinesia and off), when he takes too much or too much at once of levo-dopa. Some patients however, do have not only two kinds of on, but also two kinds of off. The First one, the "real" off (in which the primary Parkinson symptoms reappear) and the second, the "wearing off"( with very severe dyskinesia in combination with dystonia). This last type of dyskinesia is also mentioned in the literature under the names of interdose dyskinesia or evening dyskinesia or dyphasic (two-phase) dyskinesia, because people with this kind of reaction in the "wearing off" phase tend to have the same reaction, though less severe, in the starting up phase. I myself have suffered from heavy "end of dose" dyskinesia, which has disappeared completely on the most affected half of my body, following a pallidotomy. The painfullness of this "end of dose" reaction is caused by the combination of dyskinesia and a high muscle tonus. It is possible that a neuro who works in an outpatient centre, never sees those symptoms, because patients who suffer from them are incapable to come to the office when this symptoms are manifest they and will take this into account when making an appointment. A quote from chapter 7 http://www.ionet.net/~jcott/homepage/archive/patp.html, of Algorithm For The Management Of Parkinson's Disease, (a supplement of the American Academy of Neurology. Reprinted in Neurology 1994;44:S1-S52. Editors: William Koller, M.D. Ph.D Dee Silver, M.D. Abraham Lieberman, M.D.): Choreodystonic dyskinesias are also seen in a second distinct pattern, in which these adventitious movements occur just at the beginning and again at the end of the levodopa response cycle. This has been termed "diphasic dyskinesia" or D-I-D response, a shorthand for "dyskinesia-improvement-dyskinesia").[124] This pattern is much less common than peak-dose dyskinesia and is often difficult to diagnose because the pattern may not he obvious, either to the patient or the clinician. The end-of-dose period of dyskinesias is typically more prolonged and troublesome than the initial dyskinetic period of the levodopa cycle. Ida Kamphuis (54/14) -------------------------------------------------------------- Vriendelijke Groeten / Kind regards, Ida Kamphuis mailto: [log in to unmask]