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Dear Nancy, Janet and others, The bed ladder is offered by a number of companies. Here a few. Call these numbers and just ask them first to send you their catalogues. Then go thru them and order the bed rope ladder. Please let me know if they work for you. Mark Warner AliMed (800) 225-2610 Maddak (800) 443-4926 North Coast Medical (800) 821-9319 Sammons Preston (800) 323-5547