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Ivan, Nita, et al.... Archbishop Tutu is a sophisticated prelate who I'm SURE is able to comprehend the pain and frustration felt by so many persons with Parkinson's live with on a daily basis. After all, he's been an outspoken AND outstanding advocate against injustice against his own people, as well as other such injustices suffered by humanity by the HANDS of humanity for a GREAT many years. Based upon THAT, I seriously doubt he needs "coaching" from List members about what to say in expressing his compassion and understanding of and for people with who struggle with and against Parkinson's disease. I'm also sure that when Archbishop Tutu aids an individual OR a group of individuals by lending his much respected name to their cause, it's done not only thoughtfully, but without expectation of fawning thanks. He's giving because he genuinely cares about PEOPLE, not because he cares about getting THANKED for caring. And Ivan.... SMACK! Get outta yer "Searching for 'phobics" mode! It's inappropriate in this case, and an insult to Archbishop Tutu as well as your fellow List members. (Ivan... I love ya ANYWAY, but you can be SUCH a dufus sometimes!) <ducking> Barb Mallut [log in to unmask] -----Original Message----- From: Nita Andres <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:09 AM Subject: Re: Our response to Archbishop Desmond Tutu: er, um ?? >Ivan, the color of the Archbishops skin has nothing to do with anything. the >point is what do you want us to say. That suggestion is close to insulting. >Just let us know what you would like to have said. Nita > >Ivan M Suzman wrote: > >> Dear Parkinson's List members, >> >> The following letter is being sent again. It suggests that if you wish >> to write a comment to Archbishop Tutu about helping us in A p r i l , a >> posting to our List would probably be best at the moment. >> >> The original text somehow did not show on my screen, so I am re-sending >> it, in case those of us who wish to comment also had blank screens. >> >> I am getting worried that Archbishop Tutu, a MAJOR world religious >> leader, is being, er, umm, not being taken seriously enough by us folks.. >> Why are there so few responses? Or am I just a little anxious? Is his >> color an issue that blocks some of us?? >> >> Please try to respond. I need to know your thoughts. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Ivan Suzman >> >> ^^^^^^ WARM GREETINGS FROM ^^^^^^^^^^^^ :-) >> Ivan Suzman 49/39/36 [log in to unmask] :-) >> Portland, Maine land of lighthouses 27 deg. F :-) >> ******************************************************************** >> >> --------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: [log in to unmask] >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Cc: [log in to unmask] >> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:48:14 -0500 >> Subject: Re: Archbishop Desmond Tutu: Update >> Message-ID: <[log in to unmask]> >> >> Dear Mary Ann, Maryhelen, Stephan and other listmembers, >> >> I talked with Archbishop Desmond Tutu's office >> twice more. today, at Emory University. They are VERY >> receptive, and distinctly compassionate. >> >> I am trying to do everything they need, humbly and completely. >> >> I believe that YOUR e-mail messages to him could be quite helpful. >> I feel that placing these messages on our List would be better >> than e-mailing his office directly. This tactic >> would help me to know what Listmembers are thinking >> about his potential involvement with us. >> >> I also mailed him a long, personal letter, which he had requested. >> I asked him to do whatever he felt he could do. I emphasized April, >> because it is Parkinson's Awareness Month. I wrote about >> how truly difficult it is for most of us PWP's to be heard. >> >> I hope that he can help us visibly. I am actually VERY uneasy >> tonight, because I do not want to push. >> >> I am hoping that I am letting him lead the way. >> I will follow what he tells me to do. (I know, I know, Ivan the >> follower??) >> >> So, I am keeping my fingers crossed that I am doing this job >> sensitively. . >> >> Ivan Suzman >> >> On Sun, 21 Feb 1999 11:48:05 -0500 "Bent Willow" <[log in to unmask]> >> writes: >> >Ivan wrote: >> >> Archbishop Tutu and I talked about World Parkinson's Day, April >> >11,and >> >>about ./..(CUT) >