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Hilary, you are all wet. Ivan is not worthy of anyone's adulation,
especially those of us on the list who have been mistreated by him.  He is a
joke.  He enjoys stirring up trouble and he NEVER apologizes for any of the
trouble he causes.  Ivan is best ignored by all - maybe he'll go away.

I used to be a supporter, even after poor treatment of me by him.  NO MORE.