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Hi Janice I agree this issue is really thorny and probably needs some thorough joint discussion among not only those involved teaching writing but all faculty. Your contract sounds ok to me --except for one thing. The equipment you get should be separate from the actual payment you receive for your time and effort. I did get access to equipment to run the course. For some interesting political reasons when I designed the course I had access to the appropriate equipment and then for equally political and unfortunate reasons, the equipment was withdrawn. The effect was dramatic ie we couldn't run the course. The course itself required that both my TA and I had access to up-to-date equipment. So I wrote a proposal and pointed out the obvious -- if the university wanted courses like this then it had to ante up so that those who were designing and running them could do so. I got the equipment. so I feel that you should be paid separately from the equipment you receive. After all, would the university require an admin assistant to purchase his his or her computer system? To design, maintain and run an on-line course, you simply have to have an up-to-date powerful system, and the university should provide it. There my two cents worth. At 11:43 AM 3/12/99 -0800, Janice Freeman wrote: >Cathy, > >I've been wanting to respond to several of the issues on this thread, >but what you said about ownership of online courses intrigues me. I >taught our first online course here last term, not thinking about such >issues at all. (I developed it during my sabbatical.) Then the Dean >approached me last month, offering me a grant to develop the course for >delivery in the Provincial First Year by Disitance Education programme. >Now, in order to get the grant (which I need to buy new equipment), I >have to sign a contract dealing with ownership issues. > >I saw a draft of the contract this week, and it seems pretty >reasonable-- I would retain ownership of the intellectual property and >the university agrees not to hire anyone else to deliver the course >unless I dropped dead just before or in the middle of it. If I wanted to >offer it outside the university, however, I would have to clear it with >the Dean. > >I have no interest in commercializing the course, so I don't see any >major pitfalls in the contract. I haven't signed it yet, but I will very >soon. I guess what would be helpful to me would be feedback from the >list about possible problems. It does seem strange to be offering to >give up any rights to a course that I've already developed, but since I >did so on university time, I suppose they already have some rights to >it. I know that the 4Cs has an Intellectual Property Caucus and their >documents are available on the web, but is there anything that's >specific to the Canadian context that we should be looking at? > >Janice Freeman >Centre for Academic Writing >University of Winnipeg > >c schryer wrote: > >> As to ownership and cost issues--very interesting. >> >> I was paid a flat fee to produce the course -- and as I understand it, I own >> the content of the course (at least it is copyrighted to me) although it is >> the university's course. I have a feeling though that the issue is up in >> the air right now. I know of at least one instructor here who spend a lot >> of university resources (far more than I did) to produce his on-line course >> and then commercialized it (and he's making a mint with it). I know the >> powers-that-be are really steamed about this. I suspect the issue might hit >> the courts. >> >> My solution to the problem of ownership and quality control has been to make >> the course complex and interactive. It has to be run by people or it >> doesn't work at all. right from the beginning I did not want the course to >> be susceptible to "canning" ie run by mechanistic means or run by TA's >> without supervision. >> >> I gather too that I will also be receiving partial credit for the course >> everytime it runs. And I shall be keeping track of and collecting that >> credit. >> Catherine F. Schryer >> Dept. of English >> University of Waterloo >> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada >> N2L 3G1 >> (519) 885-1211 (ext 3318) > > Catherine F. Schryer Dept. of English University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2L 3G1 (519) 885-1211 (ext 3318)