Doug's right, the 8's allow direct publishing, but I think they're both _much_ worse than just "a bit clutzy." Unfortunately, I haven't found much that is markedly better. My students are using the Netscape editor -- because it's right under their mouse, mostly -- but it's not really better (and running under Windows 95/8 it won't let you re-save a file on a network directory). I use a Symantec product called Visual Page, which is just a smidgin better. If anybody's found what I think everyone is waiting for, a real word processor that just _works_ in html, and which will let you go directly into the codes and edit them when you need to (VP does that, at least), I'd be happy to know of it. I'd even pay for it. -- Russ __|~_ Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Aquinas Chair St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] \ / ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~