Actually Russ et al., I am not sure if this is what you are looking for, but I customarily use a program called Hot Metal Pro 4. It functions so that you can see the markup or not - usually best to use it with - and it essentially does all the inserting for you, once you know the 'cues' . I also am self taught, so it can't be THAT hard to learn!! My work is essentially net based, so I use it as it were Word Perfect or Windows most of the time. You might even be able to get a trial version for free off the net. The parent company is called Softquad, and as a note of interest, I even think that they might be a bit Canadian!! again, it might not be perfectly suited, but worth a try, I would say. Lorraine At 03:54 PM 3/15/99 AST4ADT, you wrote: >Doug's right, the 8's allow direct publishing, but I think they're >both _much_ worse than just "a bit clutzy." Unfortunately, I haven't >found much that is markedly better. My students are using the >Netscape editor -- because it's right under their mouse, mostly -- >but it's not really better (and running under Windows 95/8 it won't >let you re-save a file on a network directory). I use a Symantec >product called Visual Page, which is just a smidgin better. > >If anybody's found what I think everyone is waiting for, a real word >processor that just _works_ in html, and which will let you go >directly into the codes and edit them when you need to (VP does that, >at least), I'd be happy to know of it. I'd even pay for it. > > -- Russ > __|~_ >Russell A. Hunt __|~_)_ __)_|~_ Aquinas Chair >St. Thomas University )_ __)_|_)__ __) PHONE: (506) 452-0424 >Fredericton, New Brunswick | )____) | FAX: (506) 450-9615 >E3B 5G3 CANADA ___|____|____|____/ [log in to unmask] > \ / > ~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.StThomasU.ca/hunt/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lorraine Nolan, BA (STU) MA (NUI) ESL Specialist/Assistant Project Officer/Events Manager National Adult Literacy Database (NALD) Scovil House, 703 Brunswick Street Fredericton, New Brunswick E3B 1H8 Canada mailto:[log in to unmask] http://www.nald.ca TF: 1 800 720 6253 Tel: 506 457 6900 Fax: 506 457 6910 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~